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EZRA KLEIN: From New York Times Opinion, this is the Ezra Klein Show.
It is Tuesday, August 6. We just found out that Tim Walz, the governor of Minnesota, who we just did a show with a week ago — you can find it just back there in the archives — is going to be Kamala Harris’s choice for vice president. And so we now know what the shape of the race is. We have Donald Trump and JD Vance on one side, and we have Kamala Harris and Tim Walz on the other.
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We’ve been covering this closely enough and talking about Walz enough that it felt like it would be good to just have a conversation about how this looks. So I’m joined, as I am so often in the cycle by our great senior editor, Claire Gordon.
CLAIRE GORDON: Hi, Ezra. So I’ve seen Walz described as a unity pick, but he isn’t exactly a moderate, and Minnesota isn’t exactly a swing state. So would you describe this as a safe choice or a bold choice?
